Stegos首次AMA直播回顾

9月17日晚上7点,Stegos创始人Joel在社区进行了长达100分钟的AMA直播活动,并在9个社群同步转播,观看人数高达4500人,分享了Joel创立Stegos的曲折,讲解了Stegos技术干货以及现场答疑讨论十分精彩,一起来回顾昨晚的文字记录吧~

 

本次的嘉宾为Stegos创始人Joel,Joel是一位经验丰富的黑客和区块链先驱。他曾是AE的前首席技术官。也曾担任德意志银行大宗经纪技术总监,负责海外开发团队。目前他专注于Stegos,以解决隐私通信和付款问题。

 

主持人为BlockArk联合创始人大副,以下为直播实录:

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直播实录

大副:

Stegos是由AE的前任CTO-Joel创立

Stegos主要特性:

- 隐私交易:完全的隐私,扩展性通过Omniledger分片+区块删减保证,首个支持分片的的轻量级区块链,所谓TPS根本不是什么问题,扩展性最强的隐私链。

- 隐私邮件:拒绝邮件监视。

- 隐私聊天:匿名版微信,链上隐私通信,与传统通信系统完全不同的架构。

- 隐私OTC:链上OTC赋予BTC匿名性,与OTC隐私聊天绝配。

- 赌注权益证明:1/3区块奖励注入赌注池,让pos不再拉大贫富差距。

- 移动挖矿:第一个支持移动设备运行全节点的区块链,真正允许每个用户运行节点,参与区块链治理。

我们的口号:拒绝监控,拥抱自由!

 

本次的AMA大概持续80-100分钟,分为两个环节。第一个环节我将代表社区,讲最近两周社区的疑问提给Joel。

 

大概60-80分钟之后,会有自由提问环节,Ask Me Anything时间,在AMA总群和转播群的小伙伴都可以自由提问,由Joel为我们解答。

 

大幅:

第一个问题:

JOEL创立Stegos的经历可谓十分曲折,AE、Emotiq、Stegos三个项目的构想和愿景都有很大的差别,是怎样的契机让JOEL最终选择了在Stegos这条路上走下去呢?相对于前两个项目,Stegos有哪些东西是最让人兴奋的?

JOEL experienced a lot of tough moments when creating Stegos. The ideas and visions of those three projects: AE, Emotiq and Stegos are very different. What is the motivation for JOEL to make Stegos? What is the most outstanding thing about Stegos compared to the first two projects?

Joel:

Both AE and Emotiq started with from premise that there’s this cool thing called blockchain and that useful applications may be found once the product is built. With Stegos, I looked for a problem to solve and THEN built a blockchain.

AE和Emotiq都是始于某种假定:有个很酷的东西叫做区块链,一旦产品建立好之后就可以找到很多有用的应用场景。但是对于Stegos,我发现了一个亟待解决的问题,然后建立了区块链。

The assumption nowadays is that we should accept government surveillance because we cannot do anything about it. Stegos frees you from the shackles of government surveillance, enabling to you talk to anyone or pay anyone with absolutely freedom, knowing that neither payments nor communications can be traced back to you!

现在设想下我们应该接受ZF监控,因为我们无法对此采取任何行动。Stegos将把你从ZF监控的束缚中解放出来,使你能够与任何人交谈,或向任何人进行绝对自由的付款,无论是你的付款和通讯都不可追溯!

大副:

Okay,第二个问题:

区块链技术在越来越多的国家和地区得到了认同,facebook也发布了libra的白皮书,在未来将更好地服务全世界的用户,这可能也会将移动支付带入一个新的阶段。对于Stegos来说,或许也迎来了一个非常好的机会,Joel怎么看这一点呢?

Blockchain technology has been recognized in more and more countries and regions. Facebook has also released libra's white paper, which will better serve users all over the world in the future, which may also bring mobile payment into a new stage. That’s also a very good opportunity for Stegos. JOEL, what’s your options for that?

Joel:

We may launch an algorithmic privacy stablecoin in the future. And we are totally focused on mobile privacy payments now.

我们将来可能会推出一个基于算法的隐私型稳定币。我们现在完全专注于移动隐私付款。

大副:

第三个问题:

作为首个支持移动app的POS隐私币,把手机作为区块链节点是很多项目都在尝试的事,但由于手机性能、网络波动等问题,至今没有一个成熟的解决方案或者出色的项目,Stegos要解决这个问题,有什么比较好的解决方案吗?

Stegos is the first POS privacy-protecting digital currency to support mobile apps. As we know there are a lot of projects to try using mobile phones as blockchain nodes, but due to problems such as mobile phone performance and network fluctuations, none of them can achive that and also there is no mature solution. So how Stegos solve this problem. Is there any better solution?

Joel:

Blockchain networks composed of JUST mobile nodes will not be viable until we have stable 5G across the world. It’s worth preparing in advance, though. Also, keep in mind that a lot of smartphones spend their nights, and even parts of their day, charging, idle and connected to fast WiFi. Our solution is not mature at the moment but we are making progress!

在我们在全球拥有稳定的5G之前,仅仅由移动节点组成的区块链网络是不可行的。不过,值得提前做好准备。此外,请记住,许多智能手机花费他们的夜晚,甚至一天的部分时间,充电,闲置和连接到快速WiFi。我们的解决方案目前还不成熟,但我们正在取得进展!

大副:

第四个问题:

Stegos提出用分片来解决区块链的速度,并且用修剪功能来减轻节点的数据负担,但是在一个匿名的隐私网络中,如何在分片及修剪后还能保证数据的可靠性?

Stegos proposes to use slice to solve the speed of the blockchain, and use the pruning function to reduce the data burden of the node, but in an anonymous privacy network, how to ensure the reliability of the data after fragmentation and pruning?

Joel:

We use advanced cryptography to ensure privacy and anonymity while keeping our approach reliable. For example, we implement ValueShuffle which you can think of as a built-in Bitcoin mixer. Sharding does not lessen privacy and is secure as longs as the shard is large enough. Also, we have “bootstrap” nodes that keep most of the blockchain data just so that new nodes can start up securely from scratch. We are working to eliminate these bootstrap nodes in the future.

我们使用高级加密技术来确保隐私和匿名,同时确保我们的方法可靠。例如,我们实现了ValueShuffle,您可以将其视为内置比特币混币器。分片不会减少隐私,并且只要分片足够大就是安全的。此外,我们还有引导(bootstrap)节点,可以保留大部分区块链数据,以便新节点可以从头开始安全启动。我们正在致力于在将来淘汰这些引导节点。

大副:

Okay,第五个问题:

Stegos提出了新的gPOS共识机制,能否为我们简单介绍下gPOS相比于传统的POS有何优势吗?在未来手机也成为验证节点后,对手机的性能或者网络(比如需要5g)是否有要求呢?

Stegos proposed a new gPOS consensus mechanism. Can you give us a brief introduction to the advantages of gPOS compared to traditional POS?

Joel:

With traditional PoS, your chance of winning a block reward is proportional to the size of your stake. If your neighbor’s stake is 10x as large as yours then you will earn 10x less tokens over time. So PoS is a system where the rich become richer but the poor stay poor. Stegos Gamified PoS (gPoS) gives anyone the chance to strike it rich, regardless of the size of their stake.

使用传统的PoS,您获得区块奖励的机会与您的赌注大小成正比。如果您的邻居的赌注是您的10倍,那么随着时间的推移,您的赌注将减少10倍。因此,PoS是一个富人变得富裕但穷人保持贫困的体系。Stegos 的 Gamified PoS(gPoS)让任何人都有机会享受财富,无论他们的赌注大小如何。

A portion of each block reward goes into a common reward pool which accumulates over the course of 1-2 weeks before being awarded to a random node (validator). gPoS is more than a simple lottery, though. Only nodes that stay online 24x7 and support our network are eligible to win. This is why we call the prize the Validator Service Award!

每个块奖励的一部分会进入公共的奖励池,该奖励池会累积1-2周后,将奖励随机授予一个节点(验证器)。不过,gPoS不仅仅是一个简单的彩票,只有全天候在线并支持我们网络的节点才有资格获得奖励。这就是为什么我们称之为验证者服务奖!

 

大副:

在未来手机也成为验证节点后,对手机的性能或者网络(比如需要5g)是否有要求呢?

After the mobile phone becomes a verification node in the future, is there a requirement for the performance of the mobile phone or the network (for example, 5g)?

 

Joel:

It should work as long as the phone is connected to fast 4G (LTE). We have yet to analyze the battery drain that running a node may cause. Most smartphones spend a lot of time connected to WiFi and electricity, at night and while owners are at work. This is prime time to put these smart phones to good use supporting the Stegos network.

只要手机连接到快速4G网络,它就应该可以工作。我们还没有分析运行节点可能导致的电池消耗。在晚上和工作工作期间,大多数智能手机花费大量时间用于连接WiFi和充电,这是将这些智能手机用于支持Stegos网络的最佳时间段。

 

大副:

第六个问题:

在Stegos网络中,可以匿名交易和发送数据,但是为了保证匿名性,将没有身份信息会在网络上得以体现。在没有身份信息下,如何证明信息和数据真伪呢?比如有人冒充“我”与你交流,告诉你“我”换了个地址并希望你给他支付,该怎么证明他的身份?

In the Stegos network, data can be traded and sent anonymously, but to ensure anonymity, no identity information will be reflected on the network. How to prove the authenticity of information and data without identity information? For example, someone pretends to be "I" to communicate with you, telling you that "I" has changed an address and wants you to pay him. How can I prove his identity?

Joel:

This is both simple and difficult at the same time.

这既简单又困难。

We still use public / private key cryptography. It’s up to you to exchange public keys with people you want to chat with or pay but once you do, you can be assured that any message you can verify using the sender’s public key has indeed come from that sender. Signing messages with your private key, and being able to verify these messages using your public key, is what guarantees security.

我们仍然使用公钥/私钥加密。您可以与要与之聊天或付款的人交换公钥,一旦您这样做,您仍旧可以放心,您可以使用发件人的公钥验证邮件确实来自该发件人。使用您的私钥对邮件进行签名,并且能够使用您的公钥验证这些邮件,这可以保证安全性。

Your private key proves your identity. I cannot pretend to be you because I don’t have access to your private key and cannot sign messages and payments using your private key. If I sign messages using my private key while pretending to be you then anyone that you shared your public key with will not be able to decrypt and validate my messages.

您的私钥证明了您的身份。我无法假装成为您,因为我无法得知您的私钥,也无法使用您的私钥签署邮件和付款。如果我在假装成您的同时使用我的私钥对邮件进行签名,那么您共享公钥的所有人都将无法解密和验证我的邮件。

Remember that the public key is public because it’s meant to be shared! You can create a QR code out of your public key and plaster it on walls and sidewalks. No harm will come out of it to you or anyone else. Anyone who has your public key will be able to authenticate messages coming from you, though, as only your public key can decrypt messages that you signed with your private key!

请记住,公钥是公开的,因为它意味着要共享!您可以使用公钥创建QR码,并将其贴在墙壁和人行道上。对您或其他任何人都不会有任何伤害。但是,拥有公钥的任何人都可以对来自您的邮件进行身份验证,因为只有您的公钥才能解密您使用私钥签名的邮件!

大副:

第七个问题:

从白皮书和stegos的发展路线中,看得出来JOEL很喜欢微信发红包的功能,并且将这个功能加入了stegos的匿名网络中。但是我们注意到,如果发送的红包没有人领取,这个红包将会进入到奖金池中而无法退回,这样设计的目的是什么呢?

From the white paper and Stegos' development route, it can be seen that JOEL likes the function of WeChat red envelope and adds this function to the anonymous network of Stegos. However, we noticed that if the red envelope sent is not picked up, the red envelope will enter the prize pool and cannot be returned. What is the purpose of the design?

Joel:

Returning unclaimed red envelopes to the Validator Service Award pool (aka prize pool) is just an expedient way to avoid having tokens be stuck in limbo and returning them to circulation. We expect unclaimed red packets to be extremely rare.

将无人认领的红包归还给验证者服务奖池(又名奖池)只是一种权宜之计,可以避免让STG币陷入永久锁仓的困境并让他们回归流通状态。我们预计无人认领的红包会非常罕见。

大副:

第八个问题:

我们之前很多的竞争品对比分析都着重在隐私币这一方面,大家也更加关心支付的匿名性。但是对于stegos来说,点对点加密的消息传递也是一个重大的功能,这项功能相对于市场上其他类似的项目,比如telegram,有什么优劣势呢?

Many of our previous comparative analysis of competitive products focused on the privacy of the currency, and everyone is more concerned about the anonymity of payment. But for Stegos, peer-to-peer encryption messaging is also a major feature. What are the advantages and disadvantages of this feature over other similar projects on the market, such as telegrams?

Joel:

Its gonna take a bit of time to answer...I well try to summarize,though.

这个问题我们需要花一点时间来回答...不过我会尽量长话短说。

Telegram is not end-to-end encrypted by default. Any messages sent on Telegram are only encrypted form sender to the server and then from the server to the recipient. This means that anyone can tap into Telegram messages on their servers, be it Telegram itself, the government or hackers. Telegram also makes it very inconvenient to set up chats encrypted end-to-end. You are required to explicitly create such chats and they only stay on the device where you initiated them. This is a very bad design but perhaps it’s done this way on purpose.

默认情况下,电报不是端到端加密的。在Telegram上发送的任何消息仅从发送方加密到服务器,然后从服务器加密到接收方。这意味着任何人都可以利用其服务器上的Telegram消息,无论是电报本身,政府还是黑客。电报也使得设置端到端加密的聊天非常不方便。您需要明确创建此类聊天,并且它们仅保留在您启动它们的设备上。这是一个非常糟糕的设计,但也许它是故意这样做的。

Other messengers do feature end-to-end (peer-to-peer) encryption, e.g. iMessage, WhatsApp or Viber. Note that these messengers are tied to your phone number. This means that anyone with sufficient powers can watch your pattern of communication and derive conclusions from it, specially if they have access to your internet browsing history and other communications.

其他信使软件确实具有端对端(点对点)加密功能,例如,iMessage,WhatsApp或Viber。请注意,这些信使软件与您的电话号码相关联。这意味着任何拥有足够权力的人都可以观察您的沟通方式并从中获得结论,特别是如果他们可以访问您的互联网浏览历史记录和其他通信记录。

Stegos is fully encrypted and anonymous, no email addresses or phone numbers required. Stegos does not leak metadata, e.g. your phone number, time and duration of your chat sessions. Messages sent with Stegos are only associated with a public key cannot be traced back to you. Messages cannot be decrypted and read, same for payments.

Stegos是完全加密和匿名的,不需要邮箱地址或电话号码。Stegos不泄漏元数据,例如您的电话号码,聊天时间和持续时间。与Stegos一起发送的消息只与公钥相关联,无法追溯到您。邮件无法解密和读取,付款也是如此。

I should also note that WeChat has no encryption whatsoever.

我应该提醒下微信没有任何加密。

大副:

第九个问题:

STG代币在网络中有哪些作用?支付是否需要支付STG?发送信息是否需要支付STG?换句话说,STG的代币升值逻辑是什么?

What is the role of STG tokens in the network? Does the payment need to pay for STG? Do I need to pay for STG to send a message? In other words, what is the STG's token appreciation logic?

Joel:

STG tokens are used to pay for all transactions on the Stegos blockchain, including payments and messages. Theoretically, the more demand there is for Stegos tokens, the more they should appreciate. We will be working hard to ensure wide adoption of Stegos mobile applications and to make the applications themselves as enticing as possible. For legal reasons, I cannot comment further on token pricing or appreciation.

STG主网币用于支付Stegos区块链上的所有事务,包括付款和消息。从理论上讲,对Stegos主网币的需求越多,它们就越发升值。我们将努力确保Stegos移动应用程序的广泛采用,并使应用程序本身尽可能诱人。出于法律原因,我无法进一步谈论代币定价或升值。

大副:

第十个问题:

纵观整个团队,我们对David mcclain很感兴趣,作为首席火箭科学家,在团队中扮演的是什么角色呢?在太空搭建stegos节点吗?两年前一个名字叫太空链的项目似乎有同样的构想但是最终失败了。

Throughout the team, we are very interested in David mcclain. As the chief rocket scientist, what role does it play in the team? Building a stegos node in space? Two years ago, a project called the space chain seemed to have the same idea but eventually failed.

Joel:

David is a key developer on our team and our cryptography guru. He applies to the Stegos blockchain the knowledge gained over his many many productive years in various industries, including space.

David是我们团队的重要开发人员,同时他也是一位密码学大师级人物。他在Stegos区块链上运用了他包括太空行业在内的各个行业多年来积累的知识。

大副:

最后一个问题:

Stegos的未来市场发展规划是什么样的?经历了一个牛熊过后,Joel对未来的市场环境做一个预测吧,区块链将给我们的生活带来什么样的改变?持有STG代币的人会如何获得成功?

What is Stegos' future market development plan like? After a bull and bear, JOEL made a prediction about the future market environment. How blockchain technology will change our lives?How to make people who hold STG tokens succeed?

Joel:

I’m not allowed to make any market or price predictions for legal reasons. I sincerely hope that by using Stegos you will gain the freedom from broad government surveillance and will be able to conduct your business in peace and security.

出于法律原因,我不允许进行任何市场或价格预测。我真诚地希望通过使用Stegos,您将在广泛的政府监督下获得自由,并能够在和平与安全的环境中开展业务。

Reject surveillance — embrace your freedom!

拒绝监控 — 拥抱你的自由!

大副:

非常感谢Joel的分享,现在我们进入到自由提问环节吧~

Thank you very much for the wonderful sharing fo joel.Now it is a free questioning session.Welcome everyone to ask questions freely.

 

自由提问环节

大副:

第一个自由问题来这AMA总群林炳辉:

i wann ask:Some exchanges are removing privacy coins for regulation, does it has a big impact on liquidity?

and one more question is that: why do you use full node wallet ? it is unfriendly.

我想问:一些交易所正在取消隐私代币以进行监管,这对流动性会不会有很大的影响呢?

还有一个就是,你为什么要使用全节点钱包?它不是很友好使用。

 

Joel:

Few exchanges have removed privacy coins so far. Japan has outlawed privacy coins and now one exchange in Korea did the same. For every exchange that decides to give up the opportunity, other exchanges will spring up or pick up where others left of.

We are developing p2p trading functionality of our own. So there will be no loss of privacy when creating an exchange account just to buy STG coins. For example, you will be able to trustlessly exchange BTC for STG and back. We will extend our wallet apps with this trading functionality, including OTC chat rooms, an order book and fully private and anonymous trading!

As to the full-node wallet, it was just a quick way to get ready for mainnet. We are already working on the Stegos mobile app.

迄今为止,很少有交易所下架隐私硬币。日本宣布隐私币为非法,现在在韩国有一家交易所也这么做了。对于这些决定放弃机会的交易所,其他交易所就会涌现出来或者取代他们原有的位置。

我们正在开发自己的P2P交易功能。因此,只要购买STG硬币,就不会失去隐私。例如,您将能够可靠地将BTC替换为STG和替换回BTC。我们将扩展我们的钱包应用程序与这一交易功能,包括场外聊天室,交易订单以及完全隐私匿名的交易!

至于全节点钱包,这只是一个快速的方法,以便上线主网做好准备。我们目前已经在开发Stegos移动App了。

More questions?

大副:

第二个自由问题来这AMA总群林檎:

hello,joel,你好,我想问的问题是,做匿名支付的货币很多,例如Zcash、门罗,你认为Stegos跟其他竞品对比的优势在哪里?

Hello, joel, hello, the question I want to ask is that there are many coins for private payments, such as Zcash, Monroe. What do you think is the advantage of Stegos compared with other competing products?

Joel:

Stegos is the first and only PoS mobile privacy coin. All other coins are PoW and require a great expenditure of energy to function so they cannot run on the smartphone in your pocket.

Stegos是第一个也是唯一的支持移动PoS的隐私硬币。所有其他硬币都是Pow,需要消耗大量的电力才能发挥作用,这样它们就不能在口袋里的智能手机上运行。

大副:

第三个问题来自总群流星雨:

我认为,beam这种,挖出来的矿币团队抽成,模式不错,joel觉得呢?

Hi Joel, I think that like the beam, the team will take away a part of mined coins, I think they are in good shape, How do you think?

Joel:

Beam raised money from investors, a lot of money from what I know. I’m quite sure that they could work for many years without taxing the community. We do a lot with a much smaller team than beam’s and we only grow the team when the need arises and very carefully. We don’t need as much money as beam and think that a dev tax is not fair to the community when you have raised money from private investors.

Beam从投资者那里筹集资金,据我所知他们得到了很多投资。我很确定他们可以靠这笔资金工作多年而无需对社区征税。我们的团队比Beam的团队规模小得多,我认为当你从私人投资者那里筹集资金后,再征收开发税对社区不公平。

大副:

第四个问题来自总群郑格:

hi,joel,过去的IEO项目很多都是牺牲了SM投资者的利益,给IEO更好的价格跟流动性,Stegos怎么看待这种做法,你们怎么平衡SM与IEO投资者的利益冲突的呢?

Hi, joel, many of the past IEO projects have sacrificed the interests of private investors, giving IEO a better price and liquidity. How does Stegos view this approach, how do you balance the conflicts of interest between private investors and IEO investors?

Joel:

It’s impossible to balance the interests of IEO and private sale investors. The reason investors are attracted to the IEO is to have an advantage over private sale investors! We did try to lessen the pain of private sale investors, though. We narrowed the price difference between IEO and private sale investors and we also gave private sale investors 2x the coins.

平衡IEO和SM投资者的利益是不可能的。投资者被IEO吸引的原因是他们比SM投资者有优势!不过,我们确实试图减轻SM投资者的痛苦。我们缩小了IEO和SM投资者之间的价差,还给了SM投资者2倍的代币。

大副:

中间总群林炳辉穿插一句提问:

隐私权保护的问题最近已经引起人们的关注,你是怎么想的呢?

The issue of privacy protection has recently ignited, and it has gradually gained attention. What do you think?

Joel:

I would like to emphasize that we cannot protect your privacy when you give it away willingly. When you use social networks and other applications like facial recognition apps. What we CAN do, though, is protect you from surveillance.

我想强调的是,如果你心甘情愿地将隐私信息送人,我们将无法保护你的隐私。例如使用社交网络和其他的应用程序,比如面部识别软件。我们能做的就是保护你不受监视。

大副:

由于时间关系,我们的AMA到此告一段落拉,感谢Joel的分享,祝Stegos越来越好!

due to the time limit, we have to finish the AMA! and thx for Joel's sharing ! We hope that Stegos will do better.

 

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中文白皮书:https://stegos.com/docs/stegos-whitepaper-zn.pdf

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